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more about it before taking action ; and the Grand Lodge was right . Lord Panmure , with more truth than poetry , stated his belief that wo concessions which the G . M . could make would have satisfied the Prov . G . Lodge ; as it is a fact well enough understood here , that , under any circumstances , independence was determined upon , and the delay in declaring it was only while endeavours were made , in the first place , to secure recognition . Will Lord Zetland eat his words , and now grant what he refused in March , and transmit to his successors one province less than he received control over ? I doubt it .
My proposition that lie should acknowledge the "Grand Lodge of Canada /' would clear away this difficulty with him , as it is notorious that the great majority of the Lodges comprising it held Irish warrants , over which he never had any control ; besides this , the Provincial Grand Lodge was not unanimous in the movement . Although Sir Allan MacNab may have returned his patent as Prov . G . M ., that does not destroy the right of the Lodges that did not throw up their warrants to meet as a Prav . Grand Lodge with the senior Prov . G . Officer as W . M . or Prov . G . M . protem .
I trust this may meet the eye of his Lordship , as lam satisfied I give the views of every true Mason in Canada . Yours , fraternally , Canada West , Nov . 11 . 1857 , A Canadian Mason .
PERCY LODGE OF INSTRUCTION . TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —At a meeting of the Percy Lodge , No . 234 , on Tuesday , the 10 th instant , an article was read from the Freemasons' Magazine , stating that the Percy Lodge of Instruction had ceased to exist . I am desired by the Lodge to inform yon that such is not the case , as it is only about being
removed from one house of meeting to another , and has had no sanction from the mother Lodge for any alteration in its name . I am also desired to ask by whose authority the same was inserted . —I remain , Sir and Brother , Yours truly and fraternally , 27 , Down-street , Piccadilly , John Thorn , 19 th November , 1857 . Treasurer and Secretary , pro tenz .
[ The information was conveyed to us by a member of the Percy and Manchester Lodges of Instruction , and Bro . Thorn must see it would be impossible for us to give up the names of our correspondents . ]
MASONIC JURISPRUDENCE . TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Sir and Brother , —My letter , which appeared in the May number of your Magazine , principally on the subject as to whether a Warden has any right to confer Degrees * in the absence of the Master , has been so far valuable that it has at least called the attention of some of the l ^ reth ren to the subject . I confess I am not converted either by the arguments or quotations adduced
by Lector , or by the names you yourself have given in support of your opinion that Wardens can confer Degrees in the absence of the Master . Lector refers me to the following from the Book of Constitutions : —" When a Fellow-Craftsman is chosen Warden of the work under the Master , he shall be true both to the Master and Fellows ; shall carefully oversee the work in the
Master ' s absence to the Lord ' s profit ; and his 1 brethren shall obey hinu . " Again : "The most expert , of the Fellow-Craftsmen shall be chosen or appointed the Master or Overseer of the Lord ' s work , who is to be called Master by those who work under him . " The above quotations are from the heading " Of the Management of the Craft in working , " and refer to Lodges of operative Masons , as may be seen by even a cursory examination . In ancient times no one was called a
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more about it before taking action ; and the Grand Lodge was right . Lord Panmure , with more truth than poetry , stated his belief that wo concessions which the G . M . could make would have satisfied the Prov . G . Lodge ; as it is a fact well enough understood here , that , under any circumstances , independence was determined upon , and the delay in declaring it was only while endeavours were made , in the first place , to secure recognition . Will Lord Zetland eat his words , and now grant what he refused in March , and transmit to his successors one province less than he received control over ? I doubt it .
My proposition that lie should acknowledge the "Grand Lodge of Canada /' would clear away this difficulty with him , as it is notorious that the great majority of the Lodges comprising it held Irish warrants , over which he never had any control ; besides this , the Provincial Grand Lodge was not unanimous in the movement . Although Sir Allan MacNab may have returned his patent as Prov . G . M ., that does not destroy the right of the Lodges that did not throw up their warrants to meet as a Prav . Grand Lodge with the senior Prov . G . Officer as W . M . or Prov . G . M . protem .
I trust this may meet the eye of his Lordship , as lam satisfied I give the views of every true Mason in Canada . Yours , fraternally , Canada West , Nov . 11 . 1857 , A Canadian Mason .
PERCY LODGE OF INSTRUCTION . TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —At a meeting of the Percy Lodge , No . 234 , on Tuesday , the 10 th instant , an article was read from the Freemasons' Magazine , stating that the Percy Lodge of Instruction had ceased to exist . I am desired by the Lodge to inform yon that such is not the case , as it is only about being
removed from one house of meeting to another , and has had no sanction from the mother Lodge for any alteration in its name . I am also desired to ask by whose authority the same was inserted . —I remain , Sir and Brother , Yours truly and fraternally , 27 , Down-street , Piccadilly , John Thorn , 19 th November , 1857 . Treasurer and Secretary , pro tenz .
[ The information was conveyed to us by a member of the Percy and Manchester Lodges of Instruction , and Bro . Thorn must see it would be impossible for us to give up the names of our correspondents . ]
MASONIC JURISPRUDENCE . TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Sir and Brother , —My letter , which appeared in the May number of your Magazine , principally on the subject as to whether a Warden has any right to confer Degrees * in the absence of the Master , has been so far valuable that it has at least called the attention of some of the l ^ reth ren to the subject . I confess I am not converted either by the arguments or quotations adduced
by Lector , or by the names you yourself have given in support of your opinion that Wardens can confer Degrees in the absence of the Master . Lector refers me to the following from the Book of Constitutions : —" When a Fellow-Craftsman is chosen Warden of the work under the Master , he shall be true both to the Master and Fellows ; shall carefully oversee the work in the
Master ' s absence to the Lord ' s profit ; and his 1 brethren shall obey hinu . " Again : "The most expert , of the Fellow-Craftsmen shall be chosen or appointed the Master or Overseer of the Lord ' s work , who is to be called Master by those who work under him . " The above quotations are from the heading " Of the Management of the Craft in working , " and refer to Lodges of operative Masons , as may be seen by even a cursory examination . In ancient times no one was called a