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Masonic Notes And Queries.
THE TEMPLAES AND EEEEMASONEY . Despite the very able remarks of " Historieus , " I yet think there can he little doubt but that there really did exist some link between the Knights Templar and the operative Order of Freemasons . If you turn to Kymer ' s Ecedera , and carefully read the account there given , and the acts relating to the seizure and suppression of the Templar Order , you cannot fail to he struck with the uniform witness
borne to the " secret reception " into the Order , at which none but the Kni ghts could be present , and which always took place at night . In the depositions before the Commission at Paris , some facts seem to come out very plainly . Eirst , that there was a " secreta receptio ; " secondlthat
y , there were certain trials of courage and constancy introduced which gradually became the subject of abuse and were the ground of those exaggerated charges which were made against the Order and led to its downfall .
More than one witness attributes to the Graud Master , William of Beaujeu , the introduction of these innovations . Hugo de Narsac , for instance , the 205 th witness , declares as follows . — "Un ahus ajoute a un ceremonial innocent , a donne lieu a 1 'interpellation de renier Dieu faite au nouveau frerec ' etait
, une epreuve de Pobeissance iilimitee . " The 35 th witness relates his reception " avec des eireonstanees , " says the editor of the " Proees des Templiers , "" qui ressemblent a eelles de la Franc Maeonnerie . "
"Instances repetees pour l ' admissiou exhortation a reflechir , avertissement sur les fatigues les privations les dangers , Eenvoi iteratif a la reflexion solitaire appel par trois fois , " & c . It is no doubt very difficult now , owing to the lapse of time , to prove what was really the " secreta
receptio " of the Knights Templar , but there is a great deal in the theory , and not to be determined by any -mere general disclaimer , that it was based on the secret ritual of the operative Order , which there is evidence to prove was known to , and more or less directed bthe Monastic Orders . In Notes and
y . Queries , some years back , there appeared a remarkable communication from the American Consul , who had had access to the archives of the Knights of St . John of Jerusalem at Malta , in which he said , no one hut a Freemason could understand the archives . —A MASONIC STUDENT .
TEADES' SECEETS ( pp . 381 , 362 , 348 , & 388 ) . Bro . Thomas Cameron , born in 1796 , who is a t present the T yler of the St . Mungo Lodge , _ Nb . 27 , informs me that he served his apprenticeship to the shoemaking in Glasgow , but at that time he heard nothing of any trade secrets the Glasgow
among shoemakers , though he did hear of such in other trades , such as the blacksmiths ( his brother was a smith ) . Yet , no soonev bad be gone to "Rothesay , than he had to get himself made a St . Crispin , or "brothered , " as he expresses it ; he was a journeyman then , and about 24 years old ; there was another shoemaker "
" brothered " with him . The attendance of brethren upon the occasion was large ; and they not only " punished " all the funds , but even something extra , in fact , many of them got " glorious fou , " and carried on the " spree " for a day or two after .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
Bro . Cameron took an obligation aud received a word , grip , and sign ; he tells me that after the apprentices in Rothesay were bound they had to be soon thereafter " brothered , " said brothering being an old custom . I have other information to get , which I shall give
so soon as I can spare the necessary time to look after it . —W . P . BUCHAN . HOPE ' S ESSAY ON ARCHITECTURE . I can quite understand that my good Brother Buchan finds Hope too old-fashioned in his ideas for himthe more so as Mr . Hope ' s theory—he being a
, non-Mason , is utterly destructive of that very remarkable one , to say the least of it , which Bro . Buchan is so zealously advocating just now . I have read , I suspect , more works on the subject than Bro . Buchan , though I am greatly obliged to him for his fraternal advice . —A MASONIC STUDENT .
3 IAEK JEWELS IX CKAFT LODGES . A junior brother of this lodge , who has somewhere obtained the Mark degree , maintains that he is entitled to wear a Mark jewel in a Craft Lodge . I maintain that , looking at the Book of Constitutions , he has no such right . Please to favour with your reply as to which is
correct in your next . —AN OLD P . M . [ The Grand Lodge of England does not recognise the Mark degree ; consequently it is not legal to wear the jewels of that degree in a Craft lodge . In Scotland ( and in Ireland , we believe ) the Mark degree is recognised , forming part of tho Royal Arch . There it is right and proper to wear the jewels in Craft lodges . —En . F . M . J
Correspondence.
CORRESPONDENCE .
The Editor U not ' responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents THE POPE AND THE 1717 THEORY . TO THE EDITOK OE THE EliEE-IASONS' MAGAZINE A _ . I > _ IASO _ . IC MIEROB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Amongst one of the earliest promulgators of the 1717 theory , I find his Holiness
Pope Clement XII . ( Cardinal Lorenzo Corsini ) . He is described by Professor Arnold , B . A ., of the Dublin K-. C . University , as " a dillettante in the fine arts and a lover of show and magnificence , his personal bearing being gentle and noble . He died in 1740 , aged 88 . " In A . D . 1738 this pontiff issued a bull
against the then lately-formed society of Freemasons . In this bull the Pope says -. — " We have learned , and public rumour does not permit us to doubt the truth of the report , that a certain society has teen formed , under the name of Freemasonsinto which persons of all religions and
, all sects are indiscriminately admitted . " If the above be a fair translation of the Pope ' s words , it evidently means that this " certain society " had been recentl y formed , and with a lot of other data all pointing to the same idea , I am bound to assert that , however I may differ from his Holiness upon some points , I
yet unhesitatingly affirm that regarding the period of the institution of speculative Ereemasonry , Pope Clement XII ., for the last 131 years , has all along been telling the truth , while the great mass of pseudo-Masonic historians have been retailing falsehoods , or something similar . In fact , this Papal bull of 1738
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Masonic Notes And Queries.
THE TEMPLAES AND EEEEMASONEY . Despite the very able remarks of " Historieus , " I yet think there can he little doubt but that there really did exist some link between the Knights Templar and the operative Order of Freemasons . If you turn to Kymer ' s Ecedera , and carefully read the account there given , and the acts relating to the seizure and suppression of the Templar Order , you cannot fail to he struck with the uniform witness
borne to the " secret reception " into the Order , at which none but the Kni ghts could be present , and which always took place at night . In the depositions before the Commission at Paris , some facts seem to come out very plainly . Eirst , that there was a " secreta receptio ; " secondlthat
y , there were certain trials of courage and constancy introduced which gradually became the subject of abuse and were the ground of those exaggerated charges which were made against the Order and led to its downfall .
More than one witness attributes to the Graud Master , William of Beaujeu , the introduction of these innovations . Hugo de Narsac , for instance , the 205 th witness , declares as follows . — "Un ahus ajoute a un ceremonial innocent , a donne lieu a 1 'interpellation de renier Dieu faite au nouveau frerec ' etait
, une epreuve de Pobeissance iilimitee . " The 35 th witness relates his reception " avec des eireonstanees , " says the editor of the " Proees des Templiers , "" qui ressemblent a eelles de la Franc Maeonnerie . "
"Instances repetees pour l ' admissiou exhortation a reflechir , avertissement sur les fatigues les privations les dangers , Eenvoi iteratif a la reflexion solitaire appel par trois fois , " & c . It is no doubt very difficult now , owing to the lapse of time , to prove what was really the " secreta
receptio " of the Knights Templar , but there is a great deal in the theory , and not to be determined by any -mere general disclaimer , that it was based on the secret ritual of the operative Order , which there is evidence to prove was known to , and more or less directed bthe Monastic Orders . In Notes and
y . Queries , some years back , there appeared a remarkable communication from the American Consul , who had had access to the archives of the Knights of St . John of Jerusalem at Malta , in which he said , no one hut a Freemason could understand the archives . —A MASONIC STUDENT .
TEADES' SECEETS ( pp . 381 , 362 , 348 , & 388 ) . Bro . Thomas Cameron , born in 1796 , who is a t present the T yler of the St . Mungo Lodge , _ Nb . 27 , informs me that he served his apprenticeship to the shoemaking in Glasgow , but at that time he heard nothing of any trade secrets the Glasgow
among shoemakers , though he did hear of such in other trades , such as the blacksmiths ( his brother was a smith ) . Yet , no soonev bad be gone to "Rothesay , than he had to get himself made a St . Crispin , or "brothered , " as he expresses it ; he was a journeyman then , and about 24 years old ; there was another shoemaker "
" brothered " with him . The attendance of brethren upon the occasion was large ; and they not only " punished " all the funds , but even something extra , in fact , many of them got " glorious fou , " and carried on the " spree " for a day or two after .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
Bro . Cameron took an obligation aud received a word , grip , and sign ; he tells me that after the apprentices in Rothesay were bound they had to be soon thereafter " brothered , " said brothering being an old custom . I have other information to get , which I shall give
so soon as I can spare the necessary time to look after it . —W . P . BUCHAN . HOPE ' S ESSAY ON ARCHITECTURE . I can quite understand that my good Brother Buchan finds Hope too old-fashioned in his ideas for himthe more so as Mr . Hope ' s theory—he being a
, non-Mason , is utterly destructive of that very remarkable one , to say the least of it , which Bro . Buchan is so zealously advocating just now . I have read , I suspect , more works on the subject than Bro . Buchan , though I am greatly obliged to him for his fraternal advice . —A MASONIC STUDENT .
3 IAEK JEWELS IX CKAFT LODGES . A junior brother of this lodge , who has somewhere obtained the Mark degree , maintains that he is entitled to wear a Mark jewel in a Craft Lodge . I maintain that , looking at the Book of Constitutions , he has no such right . Please to favour with your reply as to which is
correct in your next . —AN OLD P . M . [ The Grand Lodge of England does not recognise the Mark degree ; consequently it is not legal to wear the jewels of that degree in a Craft lodge . In Scotland ( and in Ireland , we believe ) the Mark degree is recognised , forming part of tho Royal Arch . There it is right and proper to wear the jewels in Craft lodges . —En . F . M . J
Correspondence.
CORRESPONDENCE .
The Editor U not ' responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents THE POPE AND THE 1717 THEORY . TO THE EDITOK OE THE EliEE-IASONS' MAGAZINE A _ . I > _ IASO _ . IC MIEROB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Amongst one of the earliest promulgators of the 1717 theory , I find his Holiness
Pope Clement XII . ( Cardinal Lorenzo Corsini ) . He is described by Professor Arnold , B . A ., of the Dublin K-. C . University , as " a dillettante in the fine arts and a lover of show and magnificence , his personal bearing being gentle and noble . He died in 1740 , aged 88 . " In A . D . 1738 this pontiff issued a bull
against the then lately-formed society of Freemasons . In this bull the Pope says -. — " We have learned , and public rumour does not permit us to doubt the truth of the report , that a certain society has teen formed , under the name of Freemasonsinto which persons of all religions and
, all sects are indiscriminately admitted . " If the above be a fair translation of the Pope ' s words , it evidently means that this " certain society " had been recentl y formed , and with a lot of other data all pointing to the same idea , I am bound to assert that , however I may differ from his Holiness upon some points , I
yet unhesitatingly affirm that regarding the period of the institution of speculative Ereemasonry , Pope Clement XII ., for the last 131 years , has all along been telling the truth , while the great mass of pseudo-Masonic historians have been retailing falsehoods , or something similar . In fact , this Papal bull of 1738