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glorious banner , not against flesh and blood , but against principalities and powers , against tho rulers ofthe darkness of this world , against spiritual wickedness in high places ; that he took upon him the whole armour of God , that he might be enabled to withstand at the evil day the arch enemy of mankind and of our holy Order , and , having done all , to stand . And blessed will that knight be who , at the end of his

warfare , when borne on his shield bleeding , faint , and weary , he renders up his soul to his Creator , can say , with the Apostle St . Paxil , "I have fought a good fight ; I have kept the faith ; hereafter there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness , which God , our righteous Judge , will give me at that day . " Tours most fraternally , M . H , SiruTTLEivoKTir , Grand Vice-Chancellor , K . T . Aurjrni 28 , 1861 .

Knights Templar.

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR .

TO THE EDITOIt 01 ? TIIE PEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AXD MASONIC MIEnOH . DEAE , SIE AND BEOIIIEE , —I address you in reply to Bro . Shuttleworth ' s late letter , in hope that it may elicit other information and suggestions from your numerous readers , which may result in the adoption of some plan to remove the restriction practised with each other by the different bodies of Templars , and thus promote their usefulness . It would

appear from Bro . Shuttleworth ' s letter that the French Templars refuse to recognise us . Scotland apparently holds aloof from us , as we do from Ireland ; and I see no reason why , with equal justice , America should not extend the same advantages to ns all . Bro . Shuttleworth ' s information is valuable as coming from a French brother , but unfortunately he does not state wh

y they refuse to recognise us . Such non-recognition may arise from their having adopted the high degrees so essential to knighthood . I myself do not see why we should not _ require the Eose Croix of all postulants , and should decidedly consider it essential—if Masonic degrees are at all essential—to a Knight Commander . It ' may arise from our refusing to recognise their claim , and with it the nomination of our Grand Prior ; or , more likely , it may arise from our having made innovations incompatible with historical evidence .

Without entering into the subject of the genuineness of the Charter of Freemasons of the French Templars , which has elsewhere been amply discussed , it is undeniable that the Order of the Temple or Knights Templars , is one and indivisable , and can have only one Grand Master , reserving the point as to whether our Order is that of the Temple or the United Order of the Temple and St . John . The Scottish

Templars are probably of the latter , ancl Preston , page 200 ( 9 th edition ) , shows that , in 1500 , Masonry m England and tho Order of St . John were under the same patron and Grand Master , Henry YII . of England . From the exclusiveness of the Ancient Templarsr who admitted none but knights ( a strong argument in favour of our requiring the Eose Croix ) I have always

, seen grave objections to any connection between the Templars and the Masons . This objection is now removed by the publication of an ancient MS . by Bro . Cooke , which proves that previously , even to the establishment of the Templars , speculative and operative Masonry , though handed down together , were then understood to be entirely separate and distinct .

I regret my inabil , ty to bring forward the subject of a Union so strongly as I would wish , and onl y hope some more able hand will take up my views , concluding with a suggestion that a general convention be brou ght about during the forthcoming exhibition in London , in order to ascertain what all parties require for a fair and honourable unionorat the leastthat to

, , , we come some understanding as to general principles , shameful innovations having been made in different countries on the ancient rule ofthe Order . I remain , Dear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternally , t August 31 , 1861 . +

Private Soldiers.

PRIVATE SOLDIERS .

TO TIIE EDITOR 03 ? THE PEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBROE . DEAE SIE AND BEOTHEE , — " Secretary JNo . 162 " appears in to-day ' s MAGAZINE as the advocate of the law which denies to the private soldier , whatever his intellect and whatever his moral fitness may be , the privileges of that glorious fraternity , the true members of which do not judge a man by the social position which he may happen to occupy ; initiated

although we have had flunkey - smded fellows amongst us , who have so far forgot the first degree in Freemasonry as to ask , in places where there was more than one lodge which was the Gentlemen ' s Lodge , and to say that they would visit no other . These were commissioned officers ; and if it be to satisfy such unmasonic pride as this that Freemasonry is denied to the privatethen I contend that

, the prohibition is a removal of one of the finest of our ancient landmarks ; for " the internal , and not the external qualifications of a man are what Masonry regards . " Your correspondent is kind enough to refer me to that passage in the Bool ; of Constitutions , " where it is ordered that every candidate must be not only a free man , but ' his own masterandat the time of his initiationin reputable

, , , circumstances . ' " I am happy Jto say that I was perfectly aware of this law before I became a Mason , that I trust I have never forgotten ib since , and have no fault to find with it now . But unless the secretary of No . 162 , Sheffield , can show that every private soldier is a slave , or that his calling is disreputable , I cannot see what this has to do with the

question . That tho army generally is not the best place in ; which to recruit for Freemasonry , I am forced to acknowledge but I have yet to learn that all virtue and intelligence therein is confined to its officers , and all ignorance and vice to tho private soldiers Believing that both amongst officers and privates there are men who are as rich in knowledge and in virtue as myself , or even as the Secretary of the

Britannia Lodge ( No . 162 ) , J . see no reason why we should fear having to ' meet such fellow mortals in lodge or elsewhere . Freemasonry would not make the private mutinous to his officers , but rather obedient , nor would it be a whit worse for the efficient state of our army if it caused certain officers not to regard their private soldiers as what Professor Longfellow calls " dumb driven cattle "

. I will pass by the impertinent and needlessly insulting remark of " Secretary No . 162 , " as to what he says I do not at present know , by merely asking him , How he knows whether I am in such total ignorance of tho subject or not ? It is unfortunately apparent to any one who casts his eyes over the correspondence in tho MAGAZINE , that little of that brotherhood we profess is to be found in such correspondence ;

hence , I looked for illnatured things being said as a matter of course . But is it wise , for either our peace or the sake of the Craft , to give way to them ? For myself , _ I write from no private spleen , and no ridicule , no insinuations , and no uncharitable construction which any other correspondent may put upon my humble epistles , will silence my pen . Open to conviction , I am not to bo clamoured clown . I am , Dear Sir and Brother , yours very fraternally , BEOTHEE PETEK . Never mind ichcre , August 31 st , 1861 .

St. Mary, Redcliffe.

ST . MARY , REDCLIFFE .

TO TIIE EDITOR OE THE FItEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBBOE . DEAE SIE AND BEOTIIEE , —I have heard with much pleasure that the Freemasons of Bristol have undertaken the completion of the restoration of the north-east corner of that glorious pile , St . Mary Eedclifie . They could not have commenced at a more appropriate spot . "Would it not be a worthy and a suitable work to do for English brethren in their

Masons in general to assist our Bristol most laudable and truly Masonic undertaking . This might be done e ' ither by local appeals in lodge , or a list of subscriptions might be opened at the officeof the MAGAZINE . Should you , Sir , approve of it . I may add that in writing this I am quite uninfluenced by any idea but the good work ; having no connection with any Bristol Lodge or brother . Yours fraternally , August 3 rd , 1361 . TJ . E ., 319 .

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1861-09-07, Page 11” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 29 March 2023, www.masonicperiodicals.org/periodicals/mmr/issues/mmr_07091861/page/11/.
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UNITED GRAND LODGE. Article 1
CLASSICAL THEOLOGY.—XLVI. Article 2
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GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL INTELLIGENCE. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
NOTES ON LITERATURE SCIENCE AND ART. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 11
PRIVATE SOLDIERS. Article 11
ST. MARY, REDCLIFFE. Article 11
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 12
UNITED GRAND LODGE. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
MARK MASONRY. Article 18
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
Obituary. Article 18
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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glorious banner , not against flesh and blood , but against principalities and powers , against tho rulers ofthe darkness of this world , against spiritual wickedness in high places ; that he took upon him the whole armour of God , that he might be enabled to withstand at the evil day the arch enemy of mankind and of our holy Order , and , having done all , to stand . And blessed will that knight be who , at the end of his

warfare , when borne on his shield bleeding , faint , and weary , he renders up his soul to his Creator , can say , with the Apostle St . Paxil , "I have fought a good fight ; I have kept the faith ; hereafter there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness , which God , our righteous Judge , will give me at that day . " Tours most fraternally , M . H , SiruTTLEivoKTir , Grand Vice-Chancellor , K . T . Aurjrni 28 , 1861 .

Knights Templar.

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR .

TO THE EDITOIt 01 ? TIIE PEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AXD MASONIC MIEnOH . DEAE , SIE AND BEOIIIEE , —I address you in reply to Bro . Shuttleworth ' s late letter , in hope that it may elicit other information and suggestions from your numerous readers , which may result in the adoption of some plan to remove the restriction practised with each other by the different bodies of Templars , and thus promote their usefulness . It would

appear from Bro . Shuttleworth ' s letter that the French Templars refuse to recognise us . Scotland apparently holds aloof from us , as we do from Ireland ; and I see no reason why , with equal justice , America should not extend the same advantages to ns all . Bro . Shuttleworth ' s information is valuable as coming from a French brother , but unfortunately he does not state wh

y they refuse to recognise us . Such non-recognition may arise from their having adopted the high degrees so essential to knighthood . I myself do not see why we should not _ require the Eose Croix of all postulants , and should decidedly consider it essential—if Masonic degrees are at all essential—to a Knight Commander . It ' may arise from our refusing to recognise their claim , and with it the nomination of our Grand Prior ; or , more likely , it may arise from our having made innovations incompatible with historical evidence .

Without entering into the subject of the genuineness of the Charter of Freemasons of the French Templars , which has elsewhere been amply discussed , it is undeniable that the Order of the Temple or Knights Templars , is one and indivisable , and can have only one Grand Master , reserving the point as to whether our Order is that of the Temple or the United Order of the Temple and St . John . The Scottish

Templars are probably of the latter , ancl Preston , page 200 ( 9 th edition ) , shows that , in 1500 , Masonry m England and tho Order of St . John were under the same patron and Grand Master , Henry YII . of England . From the exclusiveness of the Ancient Templarsr who admitted none but knights ( a strong argument in favour of our requiring the Eose Croix ) I have always

, seen grave objections to any connection between the Templars and the Masons . This objection is now removed by the publication of an ancient MS . by Bro . Cooke , which proves that previously , even to the establishment of the Templars , speculative and operative Masonry , though handed down together , were then understood to be entirely separate and distinct .

I regret my inabil , ty to bring forward the subject of a Union so strongly as I would wish , and onl y hope some more able hand will take up my views , concluding with a suggestion that a general convention be brou ght about during the forthcoming exhibition in London , in order to ascertain what all parties require for a fair and honourable unionorat the leastthat to

, , , we come some understanding as to general principles , shameful innovations having been made in different countries on the ancient rule ofthe Order . I remain , Dear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternally , t August 31 , 1861 . +

Private Soldiers.

PRIVATE SOLDIERS .

TO TIIE EDITOR 03 ? THE PEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBROE . DEAE SIE AND BEOTHEE , — " Secretary JNo . 162 " appears in to-day ' s MAGAZINE as the advocate of the law which denies to the private soldier , whatever his intellect and whatever his moral fitness may be , the privileges of that glorious fraternity , the true members of which do not judge a man by the social position which he may happen to occupy ; initiated

although we have had flunkey - smded fellows amongst us , who have so far forgot the first degree in Freemasonry as to ask , in places where there was more than one lodge which was the Gentlemen ' s Lodge , and to say that they would visit no other . These were commissioned officers ; and if it be to satisfy such unmasonic pride as this that Freemasonry is denied to the privatethen I contend that

, the prohibition is a removal of one of the finest of our ancient landmarks ; for " the internal , and not the external qualifications of a man are what Masonry regards . " Your correspondent is kind enough to refer me to that passage in the Bool ; of Constitutions , " where it is ordered that every candidate must be not only a free man , but ' his own masterandat the time of his initiationin reputable

, , , circumstances . ' " I am happy Jto say that I was perfectly aware of this law before I became a Mason , that I trust I have never forgotten ib since , and have no fault to find with it now . But unless the secretary of No . 162 , Sheffield , can show that every private soldier is a slave , or that his calling is disreputable , I cannot see what this has to do with the

question . That tho army generally is not the best place in ; which to recruit for Freemasonry , I am forced to acknowledge but I have yet to learn that all virtue and intelligence therein is confined to its officers , and all ignorance and vice to tho private soldiers Believing that both amongst officers and privates there are men who are as rich in knowledge and in virtue as myself , or even as the Secretary of the

Britannia Lodge ( No . 162 ) , J . see no reason why we should fear having to ' meet such fellow mortals in lodge or elsewhere . Freemasonry would not make the private mutinous to his officers , but rather obedient , nor would it be a whit worse for the efficient state of our army if it caused certain officers not to regard their private soldiers as what Professor Longfellow calls " dumb driven cattle "

. I will pass by the impertinent and needlessly insulting remark of " Secretary No . 162 , " as to what he says I do not at present know , by merely asking him , How he knows whether I am in such total ignorance of tho subject or not ? It is unfortunately apparent to any one who casts his eyes over the correspondence in tho MAGAZINE , that little of that brotherhood we profess is to be found in such correspondence ;

hence , I looked for illnatured things being said as a matter of course . But is it wise , for either our peace or the sake of the Craft , to give way to them ? For myself , _ I write from no private spleen , and no ridicule , no insinuations , and no uncharitable construction which any other correspondent may put upon my humble epistles , will silence my pen . Open to conviction , I am not to bo clamoured clown . I am , Dear Sir and Brother , yours very fraternally , BEOTHEE PETEK . Never mind ichcre , August 31 st , 1861 .

St. Mary, Redcliffe.

ST . MARY , REDCLIFFE .

TO TIIE EDITOR OE THE FItEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBBOE . DEAE SIE AND BEOTIIEE , —I have heard with much pleasure that the Freemasons of Bristol have undertaken the completion of the restoration of the north-east corner of that glorious pile , St . Mary Eedclifie . They could not have commenced at a more appropriate spot . "Would it not be a worthy and a suitable work to do for English brethren in their

Masons in general to assist our Bristol most laudable and truly Masonic undertaking . This might be done e ' ither by local appeals in lodge , or a list of subscriptions might be opened at the officeof the MAGAZINE . Should you , Sir , approve of it . I may add that in writing this I am quite uninfluenced by any idea but the good work ; having no connection with any Bristol Lodge or brother . Yours fraternally , August 3 rd , 1361 . TJ . E ., 319 .

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