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    Article "POMEROY'S DEMOCRAT," NEW YORK, AND THE " FREEMASON," LONDON. ← Page 2 of 3 →
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"Pomeroy's Democrat," New York, And The " Freemason," London.

Chapter held a meeting for the purpose of conferring the 30 ° and 32 , it usurped a power which did not belong to it , and became in the eyes of all covenantkeeping and conservative members of the Rite , at home and abroad , " entirely illegitimate . " A correspondent of that truly conservative and respectably

conducted weekly , " the Freemasons' Magazine and Masonic Mirror , " London , m alluding to this act of the usurpers at Rochdale , says : " I am sorry to see that the force of evil example in Freemasonry , is soon felt , and thafc some of the members of the Rochdale Chapter of Rose Croix

have held a meeting for the purpose of conferring the 30 th and 32 nd degrees , which they have no more right to give than the M . A . or D . D . of Oxford and Cambridge . The Craft in general must have a very good idea of what these so-called degrees are worth , when I inform my brethren that I have learnt , on very good authority , that the sum charged to such candidates as may be gulled will not exceed Is . 6 d . " And yet with all these facts in our possession , the

" Freemason , " ( that organ of all the sore-heads , covenant-breakers , and usurpers in England ) , with the assurance of a man-milliner , or costumer for females seeking admission to Androgynous bodies , tells us , that we wrote upon " imperfect information as to the facts . " The remark is as insolent as it is false .

But we were in possession of other and official information when we denounced the Rochdale Chapter to justify us in doing so—information which the Freemason could have , without doubt , become possessed of , if it paid as much attention to legitimate

Masonry as it has to the spurious organizations in England , got up by the schismatics , covenantbreakers , and patrons of petticoat Harems , Chapters , & c , aut alio nomine guoqimiqite voearis . We had the following , contained in an official

Communication addressed by order of the Supreme Council , 33 ° , A . A . Rite for England , & c , under seal , and signature of the Grand Secretary-General , dated Feb . 25 th , 1871 , to the Supreme Councils , North and South , in the United States , and which will be respected by them , and their subordinates :

" I am sorry to report for the information of your Sup . * . Coun .- . that an illegal body at Rochdale , in Lancashire , is giving all the degrees of the A . and A . Rite , at about one shilling and sixpence each ; though every precaution has been taken to prevent the spread of this pernicious body , still it is thought but right our American brethren should be put on

their guard . " Was this imperfect information as to facts ? Immediately succeeding the extract we have already commented on , we find the following : We do not ourselves know the precise origin of the chapter , but if its non-adhesion to the S . G . C . 30 ° is to be accepted as primae faei evidence of a spurious basis , all we can say is—and we say ifc for

the especial benefit of " Pomeroy ' s Democrat—that the oldest Rose Croix Chapter in England , namely , the " Baldwyn , " at Bristol , has never acknowledged the Council in Golden Square , and yet no one presumes to stigmatise its members as spurious Masons . Ifc would have been wiser if Bro . Tisdall , the Masonic Editor of " Pomeroy ' s Democrat , " had

learned a little more of the past history and present status of Masonic degrees in England before he dipped his pen in gall and denounced a number of true and honourable Masons . In the first paragraph quoted , we are charged with acting on " imperfect information . " How did the " Freemason ' s " " Gold Lace man and Embroiderer ''

come to that conclusion , when in the first line of this second paragraph he ad mits : " We do not ourselves know the precise origin of the Chapter . " At this side of the Atlantic people of drains generally , nay universally , try to inform themselves on subjects before they express opinions on them . We therefore

hope thafc when hereafter he says anything for " the especial benefit of " Pomeroy ' s Democrat , " he will not so plainly show his insolent ignorance , and prove the truth of a homely adage : — " The higher a monkey climbs , the more clearly will he show his caudal extremitv . "

We have hitherto not mentioned the " Baldwyn '" ' at Bristol , but with all due deference to our contemporary , we will place it in the same category in which we placed the Antiquity Chapter , at Bath , in our issue of / April 12 th ult—CLANDESTINE-but we do so from conscientious motives , and a desire to benefit

legitimate Masonry , in which is contained enough to satisfy the most fastidious , unless they are speculators in Masonry , or its enemies . The " Freemason" then winds up its article by an attempted reply to our exposure of the " Red Cross

of Constantine , " in this manner : " Ifc may interest him to know that the Red Cross Order had a separate Grand Council in England , presided over by our best Masons , long before the Supreme Grand Council , 33 ° , was imported from

America ; that the strongest documentary proofs of its high-standing still exists , and have been procured from what even Bro . Tisdall will not venture to call a spurious source—the archives of the Grand Lodge of England . " We were aware that a degree called the "Red

Cross of Constantine , " or some such degree , was at one time worked in England , by a class of Cagliostros . It , as well as the Rite of Misraim , was suppressed , under the Grand Mastership of the Duke of Sussex , and | the rituals , booksletters , & cplacedaway in

, , , sealed packages in the Archives of the Grand Lodge of England , by the Grand Secretary , the venerable William White ; with the intent thafc they should never see the light ; and they never would have seen the light , and their spurious workings again beeu

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ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION. Article 1
THE M.W. GRAND MASTER. Article 2
GRAND ORIENT OF FRANCE. Article 2
"POMEROY'S DEMOCRAT," NEW YORK, AND THE " FREEMASON," LONDON. Article 3
ADDRESS TO SIR R. A. SHAFTO ADAIR, PROV. G.M. SUFFOLK. Article 5
ADDRESS BY THE CROWN PRINCE OF PRUSSIA. Article 5
THE EYE THAT SEETH IN SECRET. Article 7
MASONIC JOTTINGS, No. 74. Article 8
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 10
Obituary. Article 10
MASONIC MEMS. Article 11
Craft Masonry. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 16
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 17
BLACKBURN. Article 17
LIST OF LODGE MEETINGS &c., FOR WEEK ENDING JUNE 24TH, 1871. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGES AND CHAPTERS OF INSTRUCTION . Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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"Pomeroy's Democrat," New York, And The " Freemason," London.

Chapter held a meeting for the purpose of conferring the 30 ° and 32 , it usurped a power which did not belong to it , and became in the eyes of all covenantkeeping and conservative members of the Rite , at home and abroad , " entirely illegitimate . " A correspondent of that truly conservative and respectably

conducted weekly , " the Freemasons' Magazine and Masonic Mirror , " London , m alluding to this act of the usurpers at Rochdale , says : " I am sorry to see that the force of evil example in Freemasonry , is soon felt , and thafc some of the members of the Rochdale Chapter of Rose Croix

have held a meeting for the purpose of conferring the 30 th and 32 nd degrees , which they have no more right to give than the M . A . or D . D . of Oxford and Cambridge . The Craft in general must have a very good idea of what these so-called degrees are worth , when I inform my brethren that I have learnt , on very good authority , that the sum charged to such candidates as may be gulled will not exceed Is . 6 d . " And yet with all these facts in our possession , the

" Freemason , " ( that organ of all the sore-heads , covenant-breakers , and usurpers in England ) , with the assurance of a man-milliner , or costumer for females seeking admission to Androgynous bodies , tells us , that we wrote upon " imperfect information as to the facts . " The remark is as insolent as it is false .

But we were in possession of other and official information when we denounced the Rochdale Chapter to justify us in doing so—information which the Freemason could have , without doubt , become possessed of , if it paid as much attention to legitimate

Masonry as it has to the spurious organizations in England , got up by the schismatics , covenantbreakers , and patrons of petticoat Harems , Chapters , & c , aut alio nomine guoqimiqite voearis . We had the following , contained in an official

Communication addressed by order of the Supreme Council , 33 ° , A . A . Rite for England , & c , under seal , and signature of the Grand Secretary-General , dated Feb . 25 th , 1871 , to the Supreme Councils , North and South , in the United States , and which will be respected by them , and their subordinates :

" I am sorry to report for the information of your Sup . * . Coun .- . that an illegal body at Rochdale , in Lancashire , is giving all the degrees of the A . and A . Rite , at about one shilling and sixpence each ; though every precaution has been taken to prevent the spread of this pernicious body , still it is thought but right our American brethren should be put on

their guard . " Was this imperfect information as to facts ? Immediately succeeding the extract we have already commented on , we find the following : We do not ourselves know the precise origin of the chapter , but if its non-adhesion to the S . G . C . 30 ° is to be accepted as primae faei evidence of a spurious basis , all we can say is—and we say ifc for

the especial benefit of " Pomeroy ' s Democrat—that the oldest Rose Croix Chapter in England , namely , the " Baldwyn , " at Bristol , has never acknowledged the Council in Golden Square , and yet no one presumes to stigmatise its members as spurious Masons . Ifc would have been wiser if Bro . Tisdall , the Masonic Editor of " Pomeroy ' s Democrat , " had

learned a little more of the past history and present status of Masonic degrees in England before he dipped his pen in gall and denounced a number of true and honourable Masons . In the first paragraph quoted , we are charged with acting on " imperfect information . " How did the " Freemason ' s " " Gold Lace man and Embroiderer ''

come to that conclusion , when in the first line of this second paragraph he ad mits : " We do not ourselves know the precise origin of the Chapter . " At this side of the Atlantic people of drains generally , nay universally , try to inform themselves on subjects before they express opinions on them . We therefore

hope thafc when hereafter he says anything for " the especial benefit of " Pomeroy ' s Democrat , " he will not so plainly show his insolent ignorance , and prove the truth of a homely adage : — " The higher a monkey climbs , the more clearly will he show his caudal extremitv . "

We have hitherto not mentioned the " Baldwyn '" ' at Bristol , but with all due deference to our contemporary , we will place it in the same category in which we placed the Antiquity Chapter , at Bath , in our issue of / April 12 th ult—CLANDESTINE-but we do so from conscientious motives , and a desire to benefit

legitimate Masonry , in which is contained enough to satisfy the most fastidious , unless they are speculators in Masonry , or its enemies . The " Freemason" then winds up its article by an attempted reply to our exposure of the " Red Cross

of Constantine , " in this manner : " Ifc may interest him to know that the Red Cross Order had a separate Grand Council in England , presided over by our best Masons , long before the Supreme Grand Council , 33 ° , was imported from

America ; that the strongest documentary proofs of its high-standing still exists , and have been procured from what even Bro . Tisdall will not venture to call a spurious source—the archives of the Grand Lodge of England . " We were aware that a degree called the "Red

Cross of Constantine , " or some such degree , was at one time worked in England , by a class of Cagliostros . It , as well as the Rite of Misraim , was suppressed , under the Grand Mastership of the Duke of Sussex , and | the rituals , booksletters , & cplacedaway in

, , , sealed packages in the Archives of the Grand Lodge of England , by the Grand Secretary , the venerable William White ; with the intent thafc they should never see the light ; and they never would have seen the light , and their spurious workings again beeu

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