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The Grand Lodge Property.
ticable ) a small private room attached to each , hut this small private room is not to be a passage room leading to the lodge room . Kobing room for the Grand Master , 23 x 16 , with washing and water closet , belonging thereto . Kobing room for Grand Officers , 30 x 20 . Two or three small rooms to be used as committee rooms if the space allows .
Grand T yler ' s apartments ( which may be in the basement ) consisting of live rooms . Principal staircase leading to the different rooms . Back staircase . ¦ AA ' ater closets , lavatories , urinals , & c . A suitable approach to be made to the present great hall ( and gallery in the hall ) wliich will be used for Masonic purposes only , and although the whole of this part of the ground is to be
appropriated to Freemasonry , and separated from the tavern , yet good internal access is to be contrived from this portion of the building . The basement to be used for Grand Tyler ' s rooms , servant's apartments , and for rooms to receive the furniture belonging to lodges , & c . Arrangements must also be contrived for the future formation of a kitchen , private cellars and domestic offices under this part of the building , should it be found desirable hereafter to provide them . The throe-pair floors to be used for bedrooms , of which four or five will be required .
Yv ith the requirements for Masonic purposes we have nothing to complain of , excepting that we think that , in addition to the Lodge llooms , there should be at least two Chapter Eooms , separate and distinct ; and Ave must also be allowed to express our regret that the Knight Templar , and other degrees restricted
to Masons , have , by the treatment they have received from the Grand Secretary , been driven from our property to build a rival hall , with other appurtenances , which cannot fail hereafter to prove injurious to the property of the Craft . As regards the dimensions of
the rooms given , we are assured they cannot be adhered to in the space in which the architects have to work ; but that is a professional question , which we do not at present propose to discuss . As respects the Tavern and its requirements , the Committee say : —
The present tavern , together with the portion eastward of the tavern ( now used as offices and on which the temple now stands ) , in all about 85 feet iu length , with the exception of the facade and such rooms as may be appropriated in the front to Masonic purposes , is to be occupied by additions and alterations to the tavern , and to be separated from the Masonic portion , agreeably to the requirements in the following list : — Entrance hall and staircase .
Xew banqueting hall capable of dining 450 to 500 persons , with gallery for 150 spectators . 1 Dining-room for 130 persons . 1 Ditto 100 ditto . 2 * Ditto 50 ditto each . 2 Ditto 20 ditto each . There would he no objection to the rooms known as the Sussexthe Glee-roomthe Dining-roomand the Cambridge
, , , , being retained as dining-rooms in the future Tavern , or to the present Clarence with the passage to the east of it , being used as a Coffee-room hereafter , which Coffee-room is intended for the exclusive use of Freemasons . If space permits it , the addition of two or three smaller rooms will be an advantage . Each of the above dining-rooms to have an appropriate
anteroom , and the great Banqueting-room to have an appropriate vestibule . Urinals , water closets , lavatories , lifts , & c , & c . The three-pair floor and attics , if necessary , to be converted into bed-rooms for tenant or Manager , and servants .
The Grand Lodge Property.
Tlie basement to have the usual domestic offices suitable to the requirements of a large tavern , due regard being paid ( . „ the separation of the male and female servants' apartments and the plans must embrace a large servants' hall , and siiflj ! ciency of dressing-rooms for the waiters .
The requirements for the Tavern are no doubt , on the whole , judicious ; but we would suggest that what the Tavern required was not so much a larger hall as a second hall—certainly larger than th present—so that two large parties might be accom . modated at once , and we do not see any peculiar
reason for keeping the present hall wholly for Masonry , if it can be made available alike for general and Masonic purposes without detriment ; and again we believe that a better hall may be obtained to the west than to the east of the present , leaving ns
ample space to secure good accommodation for all Masonic requirements . »¦ "We have heard it stated , and indeed we have received communications to the effect that the layino down the dimensions of rooms , & c , would seem to
point out that the Committee liave a plan in the hackground , which will be brought fonvard against competing architects when their plans are received—and moreover , that the plan has been prepared by Bro . Daukes . "We are sure that the Committee are too
high-minded and too good Masons to lend themselves to such a scheme , and that had it been proposed to Bro . Daukes , he would not only have spurned it at once , as an insult to his social and professional standing , but would have felt himself compelled to tender the resignation of his office to the Most Worshipful
Grand Master . It is most painful to think that Freemasons , who pride themselves npon their charity , appeal to be unable to enter upon the discussion of anj measure affecting the welfare of the Craft without attributing motives to those who disagree with them , which in their capacity as citizens of the world thej would be ashamed to entertain .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .
SIR JOHN MOORE . In reference to the query in last Saturday ' s M AGAZD % "Where was Sir John Moore made a Mason ? " Iff ® you a copy of minute taken from the minute book of the Eenfrew County Kilwinning Lodge . " At the Saracen s Head Inn , 30 th BTovember , 1798 , in presence of Bro-James Dunlop , E . W . M ., and a respectable meeting »
the brethren , John Moore , of the 15 th Eeg imeuk , w < j initiated into the secret mysteries of Masonry , autl <* mitted a member of this lodge , and paid the re ^ dues . " He was then a Lieutenant in the 15 th . T ^ lodge never held of the Grand Lodge of Scotland ! originally it was named the " Paisley Kilwinning / ' " , ou account of its being composed of the noblemen a »
gentlemen connected with the county , they , in " * % applied for and received a new charter from Mother JO winning , under the title of the " Eenfrew County ^ j winning , " bearing No . 11 on her roll . William , *" of Dundonald , appears to have been initiated in tn
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The Grand Lodge Property.
ticable ) a small private room attached to each , hut this small private room is not to be a passage room leading to the lodge room . Kobing room for the Grand Master , 23 x 16 , with washing and water closet , belonging thereto . Kobing room for Grand Officers , 30 x 20 . Two or three small rooms to be used as committee rooms if the space allows .
Grand T yler ' s apartments ( which may be in the basement ) consisting of live rooms . Principal staircase leading to the different rooms . Back staircase . ¦ AA ' ater closets , lavatories , urinals , & c . A suitable approach to be made to the present great hall ( and gallery in the hall ) wliich will be used for Masonic purposes only , and although the whole of this part of the ground is to be
appropriated to Freemasonry , and separated from the tavern , yet good internal access is to be contrived from this portion of the building . The basement to be used for Grand Tyler ' s rooms , servant's apartments , and for rooms to receive the furniture belonging to lodges , & c . Arrangements must also be contrived for the future formation of a kitchen , private cellars and domestic offices under this part of the building , should it be found desirable hereafter to provide them . The throe-pair floors to be used for bedrooms , of which four or five will be required .
Yv ith the requirements for Masonic purposes we have nothing to complain of , excepting that we think that , in addition to the Lodge llooms , there should be at least two Chapter Eooms , separate and distinct ; and Ave must also be allowed to express our regret that the Knight Templar , and other degrees restricted
to Masons , have , by the treatment they have received from the Grand Secretary , been driven from our property to build a rival hall , with other appurtenances , which cannot fail hereafter to prove injurious to the property of the Craft . As regards the dimensions of
the rooms given , we are assured they cannot be adhered to in the space in which the architects have to work ; but that is a professional question , which we do not at present propose to discuss . As respects the Tavern and its requirements , the Committee say : —
The present tavern , together with the portion eastward of the tavern ( now used as offices and on which the temple now stands ) , in all about 85 feet iu length , with the exception of the facade and such rooms as may be appropriated in the front to Masonic purposes , is to be occupied by additions and alterations to the tavern , and to be separated from the Masonic portion , agreeably to the requirements in the following list : — Entrance hall and staircase .
Xew banqueting hall capable of dining 450 to 500 persons , with gallery for 150 spectators . 1 Dining-room for 130 persons . 1 Ditto 100 ditto . 2 * Ditto 50 ditto each . 2 Ditto 20 ditto each . There would he no objection to the rooms known as the Sussexthe Glee-roomthe Dining-roomand the Cambridge
, , , , being retained as dining-rooms in the future Tavern , or to the present Clarence with the passage to the east of it , being used as a Coffee-room hereafter , which Coffee-room is intended for the exclusive use of Freemasons . If space permits it , the addition of two or three smaller rooms will be an advantage . Each of the above dining-rooms to have an appropriate
anteroom , and the great Banqueting-room to have an appropriate vestibule . Urinals , water closets , lavatories , lifts , & c , & c . The three-pair floor and attics , if necessary , to be converted into bed-rooms for tenant or Manager , and servants .
The Grand Lodge Property.
Tlie basement to have the usual domestic offices suitable to the requirements of a large tavern , due regard being paid ( . „ the separation of the male and female servants' apartments and the plans must embrace a large servants' hall , and siiflj ! ciency of dressing-rooms for the waiters .
The requirements for the Tavern are no doubt , on the whole , judicious ; but we would suggest that what the Tavern required was not so much a larger hall as a second hall—certainly larger than th present—so that two large parties might be accom . modated at once , and we do not see any peculiar
reason for keeping the present hall wholly for Masonry , if it can be made available alike for general and Masonic purposes without detriment ; and again we believe that a better hall may be obtained to the west than to the east of the present , leaving ns
ample space to secure good accommodation for all Masonic requirements . »¦ "We have heard it stated , and indeed we have received communications to the effect that the layino down the dimensions of rooms , & c , would seem to
point out that the Committee liave a plan in the hackground , which will be brought fonvard against competing architects when their plans are received—and moreover , that the plan has been prepared by Bro . Daukes . "We are sure that the Committee are too
high-minded and too good Masons to lend themselves to such a scheme , and that had it been proposed to Bro . Daukes , he would not only have spurned it at once , as an insult to his social and professional standing , but would have felt himself compelled to tender the resignation of his office to the Most Worshipful
Grand Master . It is most painful to think that Freemasons , who pride themselves npon their charity , appeal to be unable to enter upon the discussion of anj measure affecting the welfare of the Craft without attributing motives to those who disagree with them , which in their capacity as citizens of the world thej would be ashamed to entertain .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .
SIR JOHN MOORE . In reference to the query in last Saturday ' s M AGAZD % "Where was Sir John Moore made a Mason ? " Iff ® you a copy of minute taken from the minute book of the Eenfrew County Kilwinning Lodge . " At the Saracen s Head Inn , 30 th BTovember , 1798 , in presence of Bro-James Dunlop , E . W . M ., and a respectable meeting »
the brethren , John Moore , of the 15 th Eeg imeuk , w < j initiated into the secret mysteries of Masonry , autl <* mitted a member of this lodge , and paid the re ^ dues . " He was then a Lieutenant in the 15 th . T ^ lodge never held of the Grand Lodge of Scotland ! originally it was named the " Paisley Kilwinning / ' " , ou account of its being composed of the noblemen a »
gentlemen connected with the county , they , in " * % applied for and received a new charter from Mother JO winning , under the title of the " Eenfrew County ^ j winning , " bearing No . 11 on her roll . William , *" of Dundonald , appears to have been initiated in tn