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Masonic Jottings.—No. 16.
history of Architecture , it is apparent that it is founded upon historical records or traditions . It is Avell known that architecture is the mother of civilisation ; that it throve ancl flourished amongst the ancients ; and it must be assumed as a fact ,
that , even at that early time , architects had a certain organisation of their OAVU ; but that the history of Freemasonry extended as far back as to the very earliest ages of antiquity is by no means proved . " HoAvever this may be , the Legend of the Craft , fitly and necessarily , forms part of our history .
DEVELOPEMENT . —FATHER . See FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE , vol . 21 , page 389 ) . —Oxford and Cambridge brothers think the metaphorical language there employed Avith reference to the origin of Speculative Masonry leads
to a conclusion which , it is plain , was not meant . An Oxford brother Avrites , if Speculative Masonry is the child of Operative Masonry , it is another entity , and it is not , and never has been , Operative Masonry . But if Speculative Masonry
is the developement of Operative Masonry , it is the same entity ; it is still Operative Masonry ; it is Operative Masonry in a state of progress . A Cambridge brother writes , if it is intended to assert that Operative Masonry begot
Speculative Masonry , nothing should be said of developement . * * * The man is the developement of the boy , but the son is not the developement of the father .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .
¦ GEAITO HASTEE PATNE AND THE MANNIKGHAM 1 ETTEE . At page 133 of the Magazine for August 15 th , 1868 , we read , " Grand Master Payne' Avho succeeded Sir Christopher Wren , is a stranger to them . " Can any of readers tell me if Grand Master Payne
your was living in 1757 , or when did he die?—W . P . B . PEISCIAN ' S HEAD . A witty correspondent at Cambridge , who has just read certain contributions to our excellent periodical , thinks it matter of gratulation that , ominous as
appearances sometimes were , Queen Victoria's peace has not been broken once , where poor Priseian's Head has been broken so often . —A PAST PEOVINOIAL G-EA 3 TD MASTEE . IATTAKIA . There is now a French lodunder the Grand
ge Orient at Lattakia , in Syria . This may be a good note for some travellers , as the steamers stop at Lattakia , and besides buying tobacco , the visitor may find brethren . —MEM .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
"DE . OLIVER . " A Member of Grand Lodge " will find that there is a fit and enduring record of the estimation in which the late Dr . Oliver was held by our excellent periodical . The death took plaee in Marcb , 1867 , and in the " Address to our Eeaders , " Freemasons' Magazine , June 1867 there is the following -. — " The
, , passage half-year has not closed without our having to deplore the loss Ave have sustained of one of the most eminent members of the Craft , that great patriarch and historian of Freemasonry , Dr . Oliver , whose noble teachings and refined precepts have endeared him to heartand whose writings have obtained for
every , him an imperishable fame ; for whenever his works are spoken of the name of Dr . Oliver will be loved and revered . He has , full of age and honour , been removed from us , hut the recollection of his virtues shall long keep his memory green in our souls . " — CHAEEES PTJRTON COOPEE .
THE OEEEE OE THE TEMPLE . I have neither questioned nor wish to question the ability of Bro . "Lupus , " or the acquirements I know he possesses , as one of the commissioners for altering the costume and ritual , hut I think it is very desirable that we should know who are associated with him in this taskand bthis we judge how far it
, y may is likely that a satisfactory result will be arrived at . I therefore take the liberty of again enquiring who these commissioners are who have such an important task conferred upon them , and when and by who were they appointed ? I agree with the remarks of "Lupus " as to the surrender of certain ceremonials to the S . C . of
the 33 ? . Some of the difficulties which will henceforth arise might , perhaps , he modified , if the StC . would require the R . A . and the Templar the 18 ° , and we have old precedent for it . Regarding the future jewel , I may say that I object to that of the Scottish Order , because it is the jewel of no Order that
everexisted , and that I believe it to be a modern invention of Scotland , and never used beyond that country . Two kinds of jewels seem to have been used in England—a metal one , of Maltese form , by the Baldwin Conclave ; and the jewel called that of the French Order—a white Maltese cross charged with a red one , beautifullindicating the union of the Orders of the
y Temple and St . John . If it can he shown that the French Order has a prior right to ourselves in this last , which I do not believe , it might , in that case , be well to adopt the Baldwin jewel—a Maltese cross , of silver for Companions of gold crowned , for Commanders ; and made someAvhat largerwith a centre piece
, with emblem of office , for Grand Officers or Grand Crosses . If Scotland refuses to abandon their black jewel , I would , in that case , leave it to them to distinguish their nationality , and enforce merely a uniform regulation as to size and ornament . —JOHN YARKETC .
BEO . HANSEN" GUAM AST ) 'IHE HIGH DEGEEES . In the pretended Manningham letter , dated 1757 , we find the words , " to settle these intricate and confused points . " May I ask how these " points ' ' should have been " intricate and confused" to a " famous Deputy Grand Master" in 1757 ? Further , can any of your readers kindly inform me how old Bro . Manningham was in 1757 , and at what date he was made a Freemason ?—W . P . B .
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Masonic Jottings.—No. 16.
history of Architecture , it is apparent that it is founded upon historical records or traditions . It is Avell known that architecture is the mother of civilisation ; that it throve ancl flourished amongst the ancients ; and it must be assumed as a fact ,
that , even at that early time , architects had a certain organisation of their OAVU ; but that the history of Freemasonry extended as far back as to the very earliest ages of antiquity is by no means proved . " HoAvever this may be , the Legend of the Craft , fitly and necessarily , forms part of our history .
DEVELOPEMENT . —FATHER . See FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE , vol . 21 , page 389 ) . —Oxford and Cambridge brothers think the metaphorical language there employed Avith reference to the origin of Speculative Masonry leads
to a conclusion which , it is plain , was not meant . An Oxford brother Avrites , if Speculative Masonry is the child of Operative Masonry , it is another entity , and it is not , and never has been , Operative Masonry . But if Speculative Masonry
is the developement of Operative Masonry , it is the same entity ; it is still Operative Masonry ; it is Operative Masonry in a state of progress . A Cambridge brother writes , if it is intended to assert that Operative Masonry begot
Speculative Masonry , nothing should be said of developement . * * * The man is the developement of the boy , but the son is not the developement of the father .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .
¦ GEAITO HASTEE PATNE AND THE MANNIKGHAM 1 ETTEE . At page 133 of the Magazine for August 15 th , 1868 , we read , " Grand Master Payne' Avho succeeded Sir Christopher Wren , is a stranger to them . " Can any of readers tell me if Grand Master Payne
your was living in 1757 , or when did he die?—W . P . B . PEISCIAN ' S HEAD . A witty correspondent at Cambridge , who has just read certain contributions to our excellent periodical , thinks it matter of gratulation that , ominous as
appearances sometimes were , Queen Victoria's peace has not been broken once , where poor Priseian's Head has been broken so often . —A PAST PEOVINOIAL G-EA 3 TD MASTEE . IATTAKIA . There is now a French lodunder the Grand
ge Orient at Lattakia , in Syria . This may be a good note for some travellers , as the steamers stop at Lattakia , and besides buying tobacco , the visitor may find brethren . —MEM .
Masonic Notes And Queries.
"DE . OLIVER . " A Member of Grand Lodge " will find that there is a fit and enduring record of the estimation in which the late Dr . Oliver was held by our excellent periodical . The death took plaee in Marcb , 1867 , and in the " Address to our Eeaders , " Freemasons' Magazine , June 1867 there is the following -. — " The
, , passage half-year has not closed without our having to deplore the loss Ave have sustained of one of the most eminent members of the Craft , that great patriarch and historian of Freemasonry , Dr . Oliver , whose noble teachings and refined precepts have endeared him to heartand whose writings have obtained for
every , him an imperishable fame ; for whenever his works are spoken of the name of Dr . Oliver will be loved and revered . He has , full of age and honour , been removed from us , hut the recollection of his virtues shall long keep his memory green in our souls . " — CHAEEES PTJRTON COOPEE .
THE OEEEE OE THE TEMPLE . I have neither questioned nor wish to question the ability of Bro . "Lupus , " or the acquirements I know he possesses , as one of the commissioners for altering the costume and ritual , hut I think it is very desirable that we should know who are associated with him in this taskand bthis we judge how far it
, y may is likely that a satisfactory result will be arrived at . I therefore take the liberty of again enquiring who these commissioners are who have such an important task conferred upon them , and when and by who were they appointed ? I agree with the remarks of "Lupus " as to the surrender of certain ceremonials to the S . C . of
the 33 ? . Some of the difficulties which will henceforth arise might , perhaps , he modified , if the StC . would require the R . A . and the Templar the 18 ° , and we have old precedent for it . Regarding the future jewel , I may say that I object to that of the Scottish Order , because it is the jewel of no Order that
everexisted , and that I believe it to be a modern invention of Scotland , and never used beyond that country . Two kinds of jewels seem to have been used in England—a metal one , of Maltese form , by the Baldwin Conclave ; and the jewel called that of the French Order—a white Maltese cross charged with a red one , beautifullindicating the union of the Orders of the
y Temple and St . John . If it can he shown that the French Order has a prior right to ourselves in this last , which I do not believe , it might , in that case , be well to adopt the Baldwin jewel—a Maltese cross , of silver for Companions of gold crowned , for Commanders ; and made someAvhat largerwith a centre piece
, with emblem of office , for Grand Officers or Grand Crosses . If Scotland refuses to abandon their black jewel , I would , in that case , leave it to them to distinguish their nationality , and enforce merely a uniform regulation as to size and ornament . —JOHN YARKETC .
BEO . HANSEN" GUAM AST ) 'IHE HIGH DEGEEES . In the pretended Manningham letter , dated 1757 , we find the words , " to settle these intricate and confused points . " May I ask how these " points ' ' should have been " intricate and confused" to a " famous Deputy Grand Master" in 1757 ? Further , can any of your readers kindly inform me how old Bro . Manningham was in 1757 , and at what date he was made a Freemason ?—W . P . B .