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Masonic Notes And Queries.
souls is part of the relig ious creed of millions of our fellow-subjects—the Hindoos . —C . P . COOPEE . HINDOOS—THEIR AVEITTEN DECLAEATIONS PREVIOUSLY TO ADMISSION INTO ENGLISH EKEEMASONEY . A correspondent AVI' 11 find the only two documents
of this kind which I recollect to have seen , in Freemasons' Magazine , vol . x ., page 4 , and vol . xii ., page 193 . —C . P . COOPER .
EIGHT OE VISITATION . I regret to say that my friends Bros . Hopkins and Hughan , in their answers to my note , have only proved my case . I use the Avord " regret" because I am still of opinion that a very little consideration would satisfy them that no brother has a ri ght
to insist upon being present at ' particular business of a lodge with which he is not connected as a member . I abandon the word ' * ' private " with regard to the lodge minutes , and adopt the Avord " particular ' in contradistinction to " general , " and so join issue with my friends . Pro . Hopkins is rather
unhappy with regard to his reference to the opinions of Grand Lodges . We in Scotland scout the idea of the English Grand Lodge acknoAvledging the Royal Arch . But the question is not one of princip les hut of privilege , ' and Avhether the Guernsey Lodge Avere for granting the right claimed bDr .
y Hopkins , our lodges at reading of minutes Avould , by factious brethren of other lodges , be eom'erted into so many bear gardens , plotting treason against the State , or Avhether they would alloAV each brother to drink each ten bottles of champagne at a banquetis immaterial . * When a brother of the lodge
complains of the proceedings of the lodge to Grand Lodge , theu the particular minutes become public property . Grand Lodge , for its private information , may require a lodge to present their minute book , but I deny that any individual brother belonging to another lodge has that right , and , if he cannot claim
the right to see tlie minute book , he cannot claim the right to be present at the reading or discussion of the minutes . The question has never been raised in Scotland , and I Avrite only Avith regard to Scotland , hut I am very far mistaken if the general body of English Masons will endorse Bros . Hopkins' and Hughan ' s views . —A . 0 . HATE .
SIE KNIGHT . Can any of the Sir Knights inform me by what authority they call themselves " Sir Kni ght Dick , " " Sir Knight Tom , " and "Sir Kni ght Harry ?" Should it not be " Sir Dick , " " Sir Tom , " and " Sir Harry ? " Tou salute a Knight Avith whom you are
acquainted Avith "Good morning , Sir Knight , " but to your familiar you say " Good morning , Sir Dick . " Masons are generally supposed to be educated men , and Avith some claims to a sli ght skill in antiquities , hut , according to their "speech by the book , " their ideas of chivalry are like the babbling of fools . — J . H . M . BAIKNSEATHEE .
TRINITY COLLEGE CHURCH , EDINBUEGH . This splendid edifice was taken down to make Avay for the North British Raihvay . Our predecessors '
work was Jumbled into an adjacent field , and I understand that grinning demons' heads and angel ' s countenances may be seen in the vicinity adorning kitchen gardens aud pigstyes . To what base uses may not the greatest remains of antiquity come to in our present railroad existence?—J . H . M . BAIENBEOOT
A MASONIC MEUSE ! As a novelty in advertising , which , it is to be hoped for the credit of the Craft , is a peculiar feature Avhich does not obtain elsewhere than north of the Tweed , I was a little puzzled and amused at an advertisement UOAV appearing in one of the Scotch
newspapers . A dealer in horses identifies his establishment in the advertisement referred to by styling it "The Masonic Meuse . " I presume this word "Meuse ' ' corresponds in meaning to that of our " MCAVS '' iu England , aud , if so , we have thus a " Masonic Mews . " Nowthe Masonic prefix certainly
, appears , to say the least of it , most ridiculously and inappropriately applied here . It is infinitely worsethan the display of the Masonic emblems to be seen occasionally at the end of a barber ' s pole in the great commercial capital of Scotland . What next ? " A Masonic Donkey Shovr'' Avould scarcely
appearmore ludicrous . —AN ENGLISH MASON . [ We think this use of a Masonic privilege cannot he too highly condemned , as it plainly proves the person AYIIO seeks to com'ert a noble science into his own profit is guilty of a gross violation of one of the first principles of Ereemasonry . —ED . P . M . ]
CUEIOUS MASONIC MARK . I understand that in Glasgow Cathedral there is a Masonic mark , consisting of a hand , a ladder of three steps , and a star . Can any of the GlasgoAv brethren inform me Avhere it is situated ? I think it is behind the pulpit . There Avas in an old family house near Edinburgh the folloAving motto or heraldic legend : —
Qwlien Adam delvycl and Eve span Quhayr was ye gentle than . Can any brother tell me the name of the house ?—J . H . M . BAIENSEATHEE . CITY GUILDS . One of the books in my collection of MSS . is a set of forms aud documents relating to guilds of the City of London , on which I make a few miscellaneous notes .
. First , as a matter of course , there is a term between Apprentice and Freeman or Eellow Craft . 2 . The indenture or obligation imposes various pledges on the Apprentice . 3 . A charge is delivered to the Apprentice . Here are extracts from one .-
—"Let this great truth be impressed upon your mind , that you are continually under the all-seeing eye of God , who is the searcher of hearts and trier of reins , and knows your very thoughts afar ofi ' . " " Absent not yourself at any time upon any pretence whatever from the service of your master or mistress without their leave . "
"Above all , neglect not the duties you owe to God . Begin and end every day in prayer . " 4 . There was an oath imposed on admission as a Freeman or Fellow Craft . Among other points , I find in one form , " Tou shall be ready at all manner
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Masonic Notes And Queries.
souls is part of the relig ious creed of millions of our fellow-subjects—the Hindoos . —C . P . COOPEE . HINDOOS—THEIR AVEITTEN DECLAEATIONS PREVIOUSLY TO ADMISSION INTO ENGLISH EKEEMASONEY . A correspondent AVI' 11 find the only two documents
of this kind which I recollect to have seen , in Freemasons' Magazine , vol . x ., page 4 , and vol . xii ., page 193 . —C . P . COOPER .
EIGHT OE VISITATION . I regret to say that my friends Bros . Hopkins and Hughan , in their answers to my note , have only proved my case . I use the Avord " regret" because I am still of opinion that a very little consideration would satisfy them that no brother has a ri ght
to insist upon being present at ' particular business of a lodge with which he is not connected as a member . I abandon the word ' * ' private " with regard to the lodge minutes , and adopt the Avord " particular ' in contradistinction to " general , " and so join issue with my friends . Pro . Hopkins is rather
unhappy with regard to his reference to the opinions of Grand Lodges . We in Scotland scout the idea of the English Grand Lodge acknoAvledging the Royal Arch . But the question is not one of princip les hut of privilege , ' and Avhether the Guernsey Lodge Avere for granting the right claimed bDr .
y Hopkins , our lodges at reading of minutes Avould , by factious brethren of other lodges , be eom'erted into so many bear gardens , plotting treason against the State , or Avhether they would alloAV each brother to drink each ten bottles of champagne at a banquetis immaterial . * When a brother of the lodge
complains of the proceedings of the lodge to Grand Lodge , theu the particular minutes become public property . Grand Lodge , for its private information , may require a lodge to present their minute book , but I deny that any individual brother belonging to another lodge has that right , and , if he cannot claim
the right to see tlie minute book , he cannot claim the right to be present at the reading or discussion of the minutes . The question has never been raised in Scotland , and I Avrite only Avith regard to Scotland , hut I am very far mistaken if the general body of English Masons will endorse Bros . Hopkins' and Hughan ' s views . —A . 0 . HATE .
SIE KNIGHT . Can any of the Sir Knights inform me by what authority they call themselves " Sir Kni ght Dick , " " Sir Knight Tom , " and "Sir Kni ght Harry ?" Should it not be " Sir Dick , " " Sir Tom , " and " Sir Harry ? " Tou salute a Knight Avith whom you are
acquainted Avith "Good morning , Sir Knight , " but to your familiar you say " Good morning , Sir Dick . " Masons are generally supposed to be educated men , and Avith some claims to a sli ght skill in antiquities , hut , according to their "speech by the book , " their ideas of chivalry are like the babbling of fools . — J . H . M . BAIKNSEATHEE .
TRINITY COLLEGE CHURCH , EDINBUEGH . This splendid edifice was taken down to make Avay for the North British Raihvay . Our predecessors '
work was Jumbled into an adjacent field , and I understand that grinning demons' heads and angel ' s countenances may be seen in the vicinity adorning kitchen gardens aud pigstyes . To what base uses may not the greatest remains of antiquity come to in our present railroad existence?—J . H . M . BAIENBEOOT
A MASONIC MEUSE ! As a novelty in advertising , which , it is to be hoped for the credit of the Craft , is a peculiar feature Avhich does not obtain elsewhere than north of the Tweed , I was a little puzzled and amused at an advertisement UOAV appearing in one of the Scotch
newspapers . A dealer in horses identifies his establishment in the advertisement referred to by styling it "The Masonic Meuse . " I presume this word "Meuse ' ' corresponds in meaning to that of our " MCAVS '' iu England , aud , if so , we have thus a " Masonic Mews . " Nowthe Masonic prefix certainly
, appears , to say the least of it , most ridiculously and inappropriately applied here . It is infinitely worsethan the display of the Masonic emblems to be seen occasionally at the end of a barber ' s pole in the great commercial capital of Scotland . What next ? " A Masonic Donkey Shovr'' Avould scarcely
appearmore ludicrous . —AN ENGLISH MASON . [ We think this use of a Masonic privilege cannot he too highly condemned , as it plainly proves the person AYIIO seeks to com'ert a noble science into his own profit is guilty of a gross violation of one of the first principles of Ereemasonry . —ED . P . M . ]
CUEIOUS MASONIC MARK . I understand that in Glasgow Cathedral there is a Masonic mark , consisting of a hand , a ladder of three steps , and a star . Can any of the GlasgoAv brethren inform me Avhere it is situated ? I think it is behind the pulpit . There Avas in an old family house near Edinburgh the folloAving motto or heraldic legend : —
Qwlien Adam delvycl and Eve span Quhayr was ye gentle than . Can any brother tell me the name of the house ?—J . H . M . BAIENSEATHEE . CITY GUILDS . One of the books in my collection of MSS . is a set of forms aud documents relating to guilds of the City of London , on which I make a few miscellaneous notes .
. First , as a matter of course , there is a term between Apprentice and Freeman or Eellow Craft . 2 . The indenture or obligation imposes various pledges on the Apprentice . 3 . A charge is delivered to the Apprentice . Here are extracts from one .-
—"Let this great truth be impressed upon your mind , that you are continually under the all-seeing eye of God , who is the searcher of hearts and trier of reins , and knows your very thoughts afar ofi ' . " " Absent not yourself at any time upon any pretence whatever from the service of your master or mistress without their leave . "
"Above all , neglect not the duties you owe to God . Begin and end every day in prayer . " 4 . There was an oath imposed on admission as a Freeman or Fellow Craft . Among other points , I find in one form , " Tou shall be ready at all manner