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Masonic Notes And Queries.

"it is high time the Masonic schoolmaster was abroad . " F . g .: —what can be more absurd to an educated mind than to hear a W . M . say , in allusion to things said to have existed at the building of Solomon ' s Temple , " These referred to the five noble Orders of Architecture" ancl then the worthy "W . M .

, gravely goes on to enumerate them namely , Tuscan , Doric , Ionic , Corinthian , and Composite . This proves the necessity that exists for the office-bearers of a lodge being really posted up in Masonry , reall y knowing and understanding what they are talking about when trying to teach others . —PICTUS .

EIYE MEDIiEYAL MASONEIES . Great similarity may , perhaps , be assumed between five Medireval Masonries—Kilwinning , Strasburg , Vienna , Berne , and Cologne . —From one of Bro . PUHTON CoCVPEE'S Tifttfi-books .

BBOTHEE IITJ GIIAN S ANALYSIS . A correspondent is not quite correct in his observation . Our excellent Bro . Hughan does not profess to bring forward new materials , but simply to review the old materials . It is wholly from these last that his conclusions are drawn , and it is from them alone that such conclusions must be judged . —CHAEEES PTJETON COOPEE .

DUTIES 01 ? OEEICEBS . r The remarks of" E . T . " upon this subject are quite apropos , aud do him great credit . If the P . M alluded to has come down in the world through misfortune , it is hardly tlie duty of Bro . Masons to trample on him when down . No ; there is only the

greater necessity in that case for holding out the right hand of fellowshi p in a true Masonic spirit . Allowing P . M . to work the ceremonies is merely paying proper homage to Masonry and mind versus money . By P . M . being elected as Tyler , it would seem that , although his money be gone , his character

is still left , Por an immoral or unprincipled man or brother , rich or poor , to work the ceremonies of Masonry is quite out of place , hypocrisy being stamped on every word he utters . If any Querist wishes to know whether P . M . ought to be allowed to work the ceremonies let him consider— -firstlwhether

y , he can work them secondl y , whether he is one who tries to practice the duties and principles he teaches ; thirdly , remembering the remark of Peter to Simon , "Thy money perish with thee—thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter , for thy heart is not right . —W . P . B .

ANCIENT GEEJIAN EKEEMASONEY , EOSICBUCIANISM , MODEEN ENGLISH EBEEMASONBY . A correspondent is thanked . It has not yet escaped my memory that in the communication , " Ancient German Freemasonry , " Freemasons' Magazine , vol . 16 , page 311 it is stated " that the ancient German

Free-, mafionry was , I imagined , not unlike the aucient English Freemasonry . Neither has it yet escaped my memory that in the communication " "Eosicrucianism and Modern English Freemasonry , " ( ibid , page 460 ) , I said that , granting Christian Rosenkreutzwho lived in the fourteenth centurynot to

, ,- have been the founder of Rosicruciam ' sin , ' yet it is clear from Eosicrucian bibliography , that Eosicrucianism existed many years before modern English Freemasonry . —C- P . COOPEE .

. MYSTEEIES OE ANCIENT NATIONS . An accomplished sister , the Countess D * * * , has sent me a letter which may be considered a learned dissertation on the Mysteries of Ancient Nations . At the same timo she makes two inquiries . First ,

what is my opinion upon the subject ? Next , what is the work discussing it , mentioned by me some time ago to a literary brother with whom she has " commercium epistolare . " My answer to the first inquiry is , that although in past years my reading upon this abstruse matter was extensive , yet it did not enable

me to come to any satisfactory result , and my age effectually prevents any further research . ( See my communication , "Mysteries of Ancient Nations , " Freemasons' Magazine , vol . 14 , page 22 S . ) My answer to the second inquiry is that the work is a treatise in Latin , with which language my correpondent ' s

letter shows her to he well acquainted . The title is " Aglaaphamas , sive de Tlieologias Mysticte Grceeoruo causis Libri III . Accedunt Poetarum Orphicorun Eeliquioe . " It was published at Kcenigsherg , in Prussia , 1829 , and forms two volumes octavo . —From Bro . PUETON COOPEE ' Masonic Letter-Book , July and August , 1866 .

OEIGIN OE THE WOED " FBEEMASON . ' I desire to thank " Bute" for his very courteous remarks and information given at page 147 , and I shall find great pleasure in perusing the different articles he alludes to , and if in these articles are contained the " facts " which E . T . refers to at page 109 ,. all rig ht- but if not , perhaps R . T . can say where mention of these " facts " is to be found . —W . P . BTJCHAN .

OEEICE OE MASTEE MASON . DEGEEE OE MASTEE MASON . A young correspondent is , I fear , getting wrong .. The office of Master Mason in our old operative Masonry and the degree of Master Mason in our modern speculative Masonry are , I conceive , different things . Thomas de Loudham and Henry de Tevely held the

office of Master Mason the former at York Cathedral 1347 , the latter at Westminster Abbey 1388 . My correspondent will , I apprehend , look in vain for evidence that these two ancient Freemasons ( I use my correspondent ' s words ) " each took the degree of Master Mason . " My correspondent shouldhowever

, ,, consult our Bro . Hughan . My knowledge of the matter has been acquired in a way of reading that makes it not much better than ignorance . Indeed , were reliance placed upon such knowledge , it would probably occasion error , and verify a certain proverb , and so prove worse than ignorance . —C . P . COOPEE .

THE NEW GOYEENOE OE SOUTH AUSTEALIA . In the person of his Excellency the new Governor of South Australia ( Sir James Fergusson , Bart . ) , the brethren in that distant colony will have au accomplished and enthusiastic Freemason . Sir James was made in the Apollo University Lodge , Oxford is an

affiliated member of Mother Kilwinning , and was its E . W . M . ( and as such Prov . G . M . of Ayrshire ) during five consecutive years ; and is at present W . M . of the Marquis of Dalhousie Lodge , London , No . 1159 . He is also a member of the Oxford Eoyal Arch Chapter and of the Cosur de Lion Encampment of Knight Templars , Oxford . —D . MUEEAX LYON ..

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1868-08-29, Page 8” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 28 March 2023, www.masonicperiodicals.org/periodicals/mmr/issues/mmr_29081868/page/8/.
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SKETCHES OF NOTABLE MASONIC WORKS. Article 4
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THE MASTER MASON DEGREE—ITS FIRST APPEARANCE IN SCOTLAND. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
MASONIC CHARITIES. Article 11
BRO. MANNINGHAM'S LETTER AND THE ROYAL ORDER OF SCOTLAND. Article 11
ANTIQUITY OF THE THIRD DEGREE. Article 11
BRO. MANNINGHAM AND THE HIGH DEGREES. Article 12
SECTARIAN MASONRY. Article 12
MASONIC PROGRESS. Article 12
MASONIC SCHOOLS. Article 13
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

"it is high time the Masonic schoolmaster was abroad . " F . g .: —what can be more absurd to an educated mind than to hear a W . M . say , in allusion to things said to have existed at the building of Solomon ' s Temple , " These referred to the five noble Orders of Architecture" ancl then the worthy "W . M .

, gravely goes on to enumerate them namely , Tuscan , Doric , Ionic , Corinthian , and Composite . This proves the necessity that exists for the office-bearers of a lodge being really posted up in Masonry , reall y knowing and understanding what they are talking about when trying to teach others . —PICTUS .

EIYE MEDIiEYAL MASONEIES . Great similarity may , perhaps , be assumed between five Medireval Masonries—Kilwinning , Strasburg , Vienna , Berne , and Cologne . —From one of Bro . PUHTON CoCVPEE'S Tifttfi-books .

BBOTHEE IITJ GIIAN S ANALYSIS . A correspondent is not quite correct in his observation . Our excellent Bro . Hughan does not profess to bring forward new materials , but simply to review the old materials . It is wholly from these last that his conclusions are drawn , and it is from them alone that such conclusions must be judged . —CHAEEES PTJETON COOPEE .

DUTIES 01 ? OEEICEBS . r The remarks of" E . T . " upon this subject are quite apropos , aud do him great credit . If the P . M alluded to has come down in the world through misfortune , it is hardly tlie duty of Bro . Masons to trample on him when down . No ; there is only the

greater necessity in that case for holding out the right hand of fellowshi p in a true Masonic spirit . Allowing P . M . to work the ceremonies is merely paying proper homage to Masonry and mind versus money . By P . M . being elected as Tyler , it would seem that , although his money be gone , his character

is still left , Por an immoral or unprincipled man or brother , rich or poor , to work the ceremonies of Masonry is quite out of place , hypocrisy being stamped on every word he utters . If any Querist wishes to know whether P . M . ought to be allowed to work the ceremonies let him consider— -firstlwhether

y , he can work them secondl y , whether he is one who tries to practice the duties and principles he teaches ; thirdly , remembering the remark of Peter to Simon , "Thy money perish with thee—thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter , for thy heart is not right . —W . P . B .

ANCIENT GEEJIAN EKEEMASONEY , EOSICBUCIANISM , MODEEN ENGLISH EBEEMASONBY . A correspondent is thanked . It has not yet escaped my memory that in the communication , " Ancient German Freemasonry , " Freemasons' Magazine , vol . 16 , page 311 it is stated " that the ancient German

Free-, mafionry was , I imagined , not unlike the aucient English Freemasonry . Neither has it yet escaped my memory that in the communication " "Eosicrucianism and Modern English Freemasonry , " ( ibid , page 460 ) , I said that , granting Christian Rosenkreutzwho lived in the fourteenth centurynot to

, ,- have been the founder of Rosicruciam ' sin , ' yet it is clear from Eosicrucian bibliography , that Eosicrucianism existed many years before modern English Freemasonry . —C- P . COOPEE .

. MYSTEEIES OE ANCIENT NATIONS . An accomplished sister , the Countess D * * * , has sent me a letter which may be considered a learned dissertation on the Mysteries of Ancient Nations . At the same timo she makes two inquiries . First ,

what is my opinion upon the subject ? Next , what is the work discussing it , mentioned by me some time ago to a literary brother with whom she has " commercium epistolare . " My answer to the first inquiry is , that although in past years my reading upon this abstruse matter was extensive , yet it did not enable

me to come to any satisfactory result , and my age effectually prevents any further research . ( See my communication , "Mysteries of Ancient Nations , " Freemasons' Magazine , vol . 14 , page 22 S . ) My answer to the second inquiry is that the work is a treatise in Latin , with which language my correpondent ' s

letter shows her to he well acquainted . The title is " Aglaaphamas , sive de Tlieologias Mysticte Grceeoruo causis Libri III . Accedunt Poetarum Orphicorun Eeliquioe . " It was published at Kcenigsherg , in Prussia , 1829 , and forms two volumes octavo . —From Bro . PUETON COOPEE ' Masonic Letter-Book , July and August , 1866 .

OEIGIN OE THE WOED " FBEEMASON . ' I desire to thank " Bute" for his very courteous remarks and information given at page 147 , and I shall find great pleasure in perusing the different articles he alludes to , and if in these articles are contained the " facts " which E . T . refers to at page 109 ,. all rig ht- but if not , perhaps R . T . can say where mention of these " facts " is to be found . —W . P . BTJCHAN .

OEEICE OE MASTEE MASON . DEGEEE OE MASTEE MASON . A young correspondent is , I fear , getting wrong .. The office of Master Mason in our old operative Masonry and the degree of Master Mason in our modern speculative Masonry are , I conceive , different things . Thomas de Loudham and Henry de Tevely held the

office of Master Mason the former at York Cathedral 1347 , the latter at Westminster Abbey 1388 . My correspondent will , I apprehend , look in vain for evidence that these two ancient Freemasons ( I use my correspondent ' s words ) " each took the degree of Master Mason . " My correspondent shouldhowever

, ,, consult our Bro . Hughan . My knowledge of the matter has been acquired in a way of reading that makes it not much better than ignorance . Indeed , were reliance placed upon such knowledge , it would probably occasion error , and verify a certain proverb , and so prove worse than ignorance . —C . P . COOPEE .

THE NEW GOYEENOE OE SOUTH AUSTEALIA . In the person of his Excellency the new Governor of South Australia ( Sir James Fergusson , Bart . ) , the brethren in that distant colony will have au accomplished and enthusiastic Freemason . Sir James was made in the Apollo University Lodge , Oxford is an

affiliated member of Mother Kilwinning , and was its E . W . M . ( and as such Prov . G . M . of Ayrshire ) during five consecutive years ; and is at present W . M . of the Marquis of Dalhousie Lodge , London , No . 1159 . He is also a member of the Oxford Eoyal Arch Chapter and of the Cosur de Lion Encampment of Knight Templars , Oxford . —D . MUEEAX LYON ..

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