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recognized on the present occasion . As to the motto of his ' . dat qyi £ ctiodat , which had been quoted , there was a great difference between habitually travelling by a goods train and embarking all at once on a runaway engine . The question ought not to be decided till the documents were before Grand Lodge . He did not know
what there might be in the Grand Secretary ' s desk , or in , the pocket of the Grand Master ' s confidential advisev—fidus Achates , if- .. Iie ' - woTiIdyttpt : 'Wiil £ the term offensive . He could see no cause for this mighty bustle all at once , and should move , as an amendment , " That this Grand Lodge declines to decide upon the recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada till it has further information , a opportunity for more mature deliberation Bro . Hearne seconded the amendment .
Bro . Slight opposed it . It was beside the question to say that they waited for those' papers . All they waited for was the official intimation , which the Grand Master had informed them was received yesterday . Some Brethren had spoken of being " astonished ; " he had been " astonished" to find opposition to a motion like this . He had expected that it would have been carried unanimously . He felt sure that the Canadian Brethren would be astonished to find their recognition opposed by Brethren who had for years expressed themselves anxious that such a
recognition should take place . Bro . Portal had said that this was hot the proper time for the recognition , and yet he had the following motion on the paper for that evening : — " That in the opinion of this Grand Lodge , the interests of Masonry will best be promoted by the recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada , and that it respectfully requests the Most Worshipful Grand Master to take the necessary steps for establishing Masonic relations with that bod Bro . the Bev . G . B . Portal : " It does not say : ' immediate' recognition . " A Voice : " ThatVa quibble . " ( Laughter ) .
Bro . Slight : " The Grand Master asks no more than Bro . Portal asks , in the motion which he has deliberately placed on the paper . " Bro . Whitmore condemned the unseemly haste with which a step was now proposed to be taken , which Bro . Portal , in common with others , admitted to be desirable . He wanted to hold out the right hand of fellowship , and not the left hand .
Bro . Savage agreed with the statement of the last speaker , but disputed his deductions . He agreed that they should hold out the right hand of fellowship , and not the left hand , but he thought that it would be holding out the right hand if they recognized the Grand Lodge of Canada at once ; but that it would be only holding out the left hand if they put it off any longer . In fact it would not only be holding out the left hand , but it would be giving the cold shoulder .
Bro . Gole asked how they could afterwards secure the rights of Lodges adhering to the Grand Lodge of England , after the unconditional recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada . The Grand Master : " Brethren , I shall first reply to the question which has just been put to me , as to how we are to deal with and secure the rights and privileges of those Lodges who still act under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of England , if we at once and unconditionally recognize the Grand Lodge of Canada . I ask how
we are to secure those privileges if we do not recognize that Grand Lodge . If a government does not recognize the existence of a new government in a foreign country , how can it send a diplomatic agent to that foreign country ? I am placed in a difficult and painful position . I have brought forward this motion after giving it my best consideration . I think I was right in doing so . I hope I shall have the support of Grand Lodge . My great object will be very much marred if , when Grand Lodge goes to a division on the subject , there , should be any considerable
minority . That would cause the recognition to go out to Canada with a very bad grace , and it would not be likely to be well received . It has been stated that I have been hostile to the recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada . That is not the fact . Quite the contrary . I have considered it necessary to do all in my power to preserve the dignity of the Grand Lodge of England . ( Applause ) . But when Bro . Portal says that I have been going on for four years in antagonism ( or some equivalent phrase ) to the Grand Lodge of Canada , 1 deny that statement utterly , Some months since great concessions were made to the Prov . Grand Lodge of
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Tie Ii So Nic Mill Or
recognized on the present occasion . As to the motto of his ' . dat qyi £ ctiodat , which had been quoted , there was a great difference between habitually travelling by a goods train and embarking all at once on a runaway engine . The question ought not to be decided till the documents were before Grand Lodge . He did not know
what there might be in the Grand Secretary ' s desk , or in , the pocket of the Grand Master ' s confidential advisev—fidus Achates , if- .. Iie ' - woTiIdyttpt : 'Wiil £ the term offensive . He could see no cause for this mighty bustle all at once , and should move , as an amendment , " That this Grand Lodge declines to decide upon the recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada till it has further information , a opportunity for more mature deliberation Bro . Hearne seconded the amendment .
Bro . Slight opposed it . It was beside the question to say that they waited for those' papers . All they waited for was the official intimation , which the Grand Master had informed them was received yesterday . Some Brethren had spoken of being " astonished ; " he had been " astonished" to find opposition to a motion like this . He had expected that it would have been carried unanimously . He felt sure that the Canadian Brethren would be astonished to find their recognition opposed by Brethren who had for years expressed themselves anxious that such a
recognition should take place . Bro . Portal had said that this was hot the proper time for the recognition , and yet he had the following motion on the paper for that evening : — " That in the opinion of this Grand Lodge , the interests of Masonry will best be promoted by the recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada , and that it respectfully requests the Most Worshipful Grand Master to take the necessary steps for establishing Masonic relations with that bod Bro . the Bev . G . B . Portal : " It does not say : ' immediate' recognition . " A Voice : " ThatVa quibble . " ( Laughter ) .
Bro . Slight : " The Grand Master asks no more than Bro . Portal asks , in the motion which he has deliberately placed on the paper . " Bro . Whitmore condemned the unseemly haste with which a step was now proposed to be taken , which Bro . Portal , in common with others , admitted to be desirable . He wanted to hold out the right hand of fellowship , and not the left hand .
Bro . Savage agreed with the statement of the last speaker , but disputed his deductions . He agreed that they should hold out the right hand of fellowship , and not the left hand , but he thought that it would be holding out the right hand if they recognized the Grand Lodge of Canada at once ; but that it would be only holding out the left hand if they put it off any longer . In fact it would not only be holding out the left hand , but it would be giving the cold shoulder .
Bro . Gole asked how they could afterwards secure the rights of Lodges adhering to the Grand Lodge of England , after the unconditional recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada . The Grand Master : " Brethren , I shall first reply to the question which has just been put to me , as to how we are to deal with and secure the rights and privileges of those Lodges who still act under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of England , if we at once and unconditionally recognize the Grand Lodge of Canada . I ask how
we are to secure those privileges if we do not recognize that Grand Lodge . If a government does not recognize the existence of a new government in a foreign country , how can it send a diplomatic agent to that foreign country ? I am placed in a difficult and painful position . I have brought forward this motion after giving it my best consideration . I think I was right in doing so . I hope I shall have the support of Grand Lodge . My great object will be very much marred if , when Grand Lodge goes to a division on the subject , there , should be any considerable
minority . That would cause the recognition to go out to Canada with a very bad grace , and it would not be likely to be well received . It has been stated that I have been hostile to the recognition of the Grand Lodge of Canada . That is not the fact . Quite the contrary . I have considered it necessary to do all in my power to preserve the dignity of the Grand Lodge of England . ( Applause ) . But when Bro . Portal says that I have been going on for four years in antagonism ( or some equivalent phrase ) to the Grand Lodge of Canada , 1 deny that statement utterly , Some months since great concessions were made to the Prov . Grand Lodge of